人物篇 ‖ 访日本国立环境研究所高级研究科学家 赖俊明
[Guest Profile] Ichinose Toshiaki, Ph.D., University of Tokyo, Japan, is currently the National Institute for Environmental Studies Center for Social and Environmental Systems Research Executive Senior Research Scientist (Professor equivalent); the Distinguished Professor (doctoral supervisor) of the Department of Environmental Engineering and Architecture, Department of environmental science, Nagoya University; the Consultant Professor of East China Normal University, and the Member of the Board of Directors of the International Association of Urban Climate (2007-2011). He has an academic background in Geography and Civil Engineering, and he is interested in various aspects of Urban Environment Systems, ranging from urban climatology, energy systems and GIS to their application in urban planning. In particular, he has performed many relevant field surveys in China and other Asian countries. He has served as a board member of the WMO Expert Team on Training on Urban Climatology.
Host: Hello everyone, welcome to the large-scale network interview program Popular Eco-People. I'm the host Guo Zhifu. Today, the guest we invited is not only as a professor, but also as the first international friend of our program. He has been in the field of environmental protection for more than 30 years. What kind of environmental protection stories or experiences will he share with us? Let's welcome Professor Ichinose Toshiaki!
Ichinose Toshiaki: Hello everyone, hello, Mr. Guo!
Host: Hello, Professor. Welcome to Popular Eco-People! Under what circumstances have you come into contact with environmental protection?
Ichinose Toshiaki: In 1985, when I was a junior at Tokyo University, I was disappointed in my study of geography. Different from the Chinese geographic community, Japanese geographic community has its unique properties. Although geographers have paid attention to social and environmental problems, they always think that solving problems is not their job. I also felt that they did not solve social problems down-to-earth, so I started to get involved in the field of environmental protection.
Host: I have noticed that you have a very important research on China's environmental issues. Why are you interested in this?
Ichinose Toshiaki: First of all, my third language is Chinese, which makes it easier for me to know about China. Second, when I started my research on doctoral dissertation, the world began to pay attention to global warming, and China's carbon dioxide became a big topic. In addition, my unit began some research topics such as land use, water resources, urban climate, street design and other issues in China. Under these factors, it comes very naturally that I care about China's environmental problems.
Host: what do you think is the biggest change in the field of environmental protection in China in recent years?
Ichinose Toshiaki: Compared with the 1990s, China's recent research direction is getting closer to our thinking. It is also the result of a long period of joint research between our two countries. But many people prefer to use simple research methods to promote geographical research, such as only using remote sensing data to study urban warming and so on. Relatively speaking, there are many people who have not received a higher education, so that some production activities still lack consideration of environmental pollution. However, since more and more people in China are pursuing higher education at the college, undergraduate and beyond, their thinking and attitude have brought China a very favorable international position.
Host: Can you share with us some ideas of how to deal with counter-urbanization in developed countries?
Ichinose Toshiaki: The tendency of Japanese urban development in 1990 is very meaningful. The bubble economy has brought about the counter-urbanization and suburbanization. The long time and distance commuting to work have brought high carbon emissions to the ecological environment system. But now in Japan, industrial activities have left the city, there are not many coolie migrant workers and villages in the city, and there are fewer families with poor living conditions and quality of life. Therefore, suburbanization is inevitable in Japan. But China does not need to go back to Japan's failures because there are fewer migrant workers and more white-collar workers in big cities such as Beijing and Shanghai.
Host: As a veteran who has been in the field of environmental protection for 35 years, how do you think ordinary people should treat environmental protection?
Ichinose Toshiaki: The lack of knowledge and thinking ability of some people can lead to a biased view of the environment. They used to think that environmental pollution is a kind of chemical pollution (public nuisance), and recently they think it is caused by economic policy (I call it "a kind of Magic", which is annoying), and even they still believe that all global environmental changes are caused by humans. Actually, these ideas are incorrect. That's why I think it is most important to raise environmental awareness and literacy across the board. For ordinary people, they should understand and support environmental protection.